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And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

I like NVIDIA a whole lot better than ATI (see Post's Below), just FYI.
"Jeff" wrote in message

And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

Are you talking when you drag windows how the window goes transparent? If so, yes, the Ati Radeon can do it. (I'm not sure if it does this in Vista, but it does in XP.) Download the Ati Hydravision via Ati's website. Then, it should. My x1600 pro does, and so does an older Radeon 9200SE I've used. It also has an option to put a shadow on windows and fade windows into view, but in my opinion, the shadow is cheezy and the window fading is slow. Maybe you'll like it though. "Jeff" wrote in message

And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

I've had just as many problems with an NVIDIA as I've had with an ATI. (I'm not saying that NVIDIA is better.) I like NVIDIA for some reasons and I like ATi for others. The NVIDIA does better in Doom3 and is more customizable, and to me anyway, the software doesn't feel as bloated and doesn't take as long of time that the ATI does to load the software. (I really miss the custom screen resolutions option.) However, the ATI (mine in particular) does better for pixel shaders. I've had one NVIDIA fail on me, and another that has to have the fan oiled frequently. (That is probably due to the manufacturer, Mad Dog, and not NVIDIA though.) On the other hand, I've never had an ATI fail on me, but I have had more conflicts with certain games with ATI's, like House of the Dead 2. I do slightly prefer NVIDIA, if you can't tell by my context, but, I don't see much wrong with ATI's either. They're both good. "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

I like NVIDIA a whole lot better than ATI (see Post's Below), just FYI.
"Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

Thanks,
Jeff
"Travis King" wrote in message

Are you talking when you drag windows how the window goes transparent? If so, yes, the Ati Radeon can do it. (I'm not sure if it does this in Vista, but it does in XP.) Download the Ati Hydravision via Ati's website. Then, it should. My x1600 pro does, and so does an older Radeon 9200SE I've used. It also has an option to put a shadow on windows and fade windows into view, but in my opinion, the shadow is cheezy and the window fading is slow. Maybe you'll like it though. "Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

My Old ATI Radeon X300 was the Very First ATI Card that I have ever Owned, so perhaps I should not be as harsh towards ATI about the fact that it went bad, I just plain have been a very loyal NVIDIA Customer, for a very long time (Since the Pentium 2 266 MHz Days with Windows '95 Release 2 Days, just FYI).
"Travis King" wrote in message

I've had just as many problems with an NVIDIA as I've had with an ATI. (I'm not saying that NVIDIA is better.) I like NVIDIA for some reasons and I like ATi for others. The NVIDIA does better in Doom3 and is more customizable, and to me anyway, the software doesn't feel as bloated and doesn't take as long of time that the ATI does to load the software. (I really miss the custom screen resolutions option.) However, the ATI (mine in particular) does better for pixel shaders. I've had one NVIDIA fail on me, and another that has to have the fan oiled frequently. (That is probably due to the manufacturer, Mad Dog, and not NVIDIA though.) On the other hand, I've never had an ATI fail on me, but I have had more conflicts with certain games with ATI's, like House of the Dead 2. I do slightly prefer NVIDIA, if you can't tell by my context, but, I don't see much wrong with ATI's either. They're both good. "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message I like NVIDIA a whole lot better than ATI (see Post's Below), just FYI.
"Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

I meant to say this, "I've had just as many problems with an NVIDIA as I've had with an ATI. (I'm not saying that *ATI* is better.)" "Travis King" wrote in message

I've had just as many problems with an NVIDIA as I've had with an ATI. (I'm not saying that NVIDIA is better.) I like NVIDIA for some reasons and I like ATi for others. The NVIDIA does better in Doom3 and is more customizable, and to me anyway, the software doesn't feel as bloated and doesn't take as long of time that the ATI does to load the software. (I really miss the custom screen resolutions option.) However, the ATI (mine in particular) does better for pixel shaders. I've had one NVIDIA fail on me, and another that has to have the fan oiled frequently. (That is probably due to the manufacturer, Mad Dog, and not NVIDIA though.) On the other hand, I've never had an ATI fail on me, but I have had more conflicts with certain games with ATI's, like House of the Dead 2. I do slightly prefer NVIDIA, if you can't tell by my context, but, I don't see much wrong with ATI's either. They're both good. "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message I like NVIDIA a whole lot better than ATI (see Post's Below), just FYI.
"Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

When you say Transparency, are you referring to the Glass effect? Because, it doesn't get more transparent than based on my experience. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Jeff" wrote in message

Thanks,
Jeff
"Travis King" wrote in message Are you talking when you drag windows how the window goes transparent? If so, yes, the Ati Radeon can do it. (I'm not sure if it does this in Vista, but it does in XP.) Download the Ati Hydravision via Ati's website. Then, it should. My x1600 pro does, and so does an older Radeon 9200SE I've used. It also has an option to put a shadow on windows and fade windows into view, but in my opinion, the shadow is cheezy and the window fading is slow. Maybe you'll like it though. "Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

LOL Andre, Yes,Travis is correct. The Nvidia does make a "Glass Effect" when you drag the windows. I can't wait to try out my new laptop with the Vista Beta public release!!!! Hopefully it won't be as "transparent" as your experience! :-)
Jeff "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

When you say Transparency, are you referring to the Glass effect? Because, it doesn't get more transparent than based on my experience. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Jeff" wrote in message Thanks,
Jeff
"Travis King" wrote in message Are you talking when you drag windows how the window goes transparent? If so, yes, the Ati Radeon can do it. (I'm not sure if it does this in Vista, but it does in XP.) Download the Ati Hydravision via Ati's website. Then, it should. My x1600 pro does, and so does an older Radeon 9200SE I've used. It also has an option to put a shadow on windows and fade windows into view, but in my opinion, the shadow is cheezy and the window fading is slow. Maybe you'll like it though. "Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

Zack has some good links with driver listings for ATI, as well as to ATI's Vista page, on his vistabase.co.uk site. http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/index
I don't see the x1400 listed as supporting AeroGlass (yet)
Jason
"Jeff" wrote in message

And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

Jason, I checked with ATI-It's listed as supporting Vista under their notebook GPU's
Jeff
"Jason Popp [MS]" wrote in message

Zack has some good links with driver listings for ATI, as well as to ATI's Vista page, on his vistabase.co.uk site. http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/index
I don't see the x1400 listed as supporting AeroGlass (yet)
Jason
"Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff

x1400 is supported only for mobile PC's though: Product series supported: Radeon® 9500, 9550, 9600, 9650, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800, X850 Radeon® X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900 series MobilityT Radeon® 9550, 9600, 9700, 9800, X300, X600, X700, X800 MobilityT Radeon® X1300, X1400, X1600, X1800 Radeon® Xpress 200, 200M FireGLT V7350, V7300, V7100, V5100, V5000, V3200, V3100 MobilityT FireGL® V5200, V5000, V3200, V3100 FireMVT 2200 PCIE, FireMVT 2400 PCIE -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Jeff" wrote in message

Jason, I checked with ATI-It's listed as supporting Vista under their notebook GPU's
Jeff
"Jason Popp [MS]" wrote in message Zack has some good links with driver listings for ATI, as well as to ATI's Vista page, on his vistabase.co.uk site. http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/index
I don't see the x1400 listed as supporting AeroGlass (yet)
Jason
"Jeff" wrote in message And on a similiar topic; I noticed Andre listed the ATI Radeon Mobility x1400 as supporting Aeroglass.
I recently purchased a Vista capable laptop;-in part due to the excellent advice from this group; with a 256Mb ATI x1400 GPU. Pardon my tangent;back to the point. Before I had a Nvidia FX5200 that worked also;and the Nvidia had an option in it to make Windows transparent. "Aeroglass" like. It was cool. But I can't find an option in the x1400 anywhere to do this. Sent an e-mail to ATI-no response. Does anyone have this card and know if it can be setup to do this or do I need to wait for the Vista public Beta to find out?
Jeff